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Can you imagine how hard it would be to design anything if every chip you used had NDAs attached to it? Micrel has nothing gigabit on their website.

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The other problem with these companies is getting smallish numbers of chips is generally expensive and difficult. I can only hope these companies dataaheet being so snobbish as they get rapid volume turnoff in the current recession in their favoured consumer markets.

On 17 Dec, Create free account Forgot password? I am not a lawyer, and you should read the terms of the NDA very closely.


This seems nuts to me. We have had the same problem and partially why we have not as yet got a phy module at gigabit available.

The fact that other users have been forced to redact pages of schematics tells me that this is a serious problem. It is cheap, low power, available, and they give datadheet the datasheets without an NDA. Plus, all the source code is open as well, so who knows what secret registers that might reveal. Anybody have any experience with it? We didn’t think it was worth incorporating in development boards, or modules, if our customers couldn’t get the basic information.

I mean, what could possibly be NDA-worthy in the datasheet for a 4 year old part that implements a technology GbE which is nearly a decade old?

Gigabit Ethernet PHY without NDA?

For example, I found this schematic containing an 88E in less than a minute of searching: On Dec 17, 2: Introduction to Microcontrollers Mike Silva. It has 4 problems: Besides, I don’t want to reward such bad behavior by these chip companies.


I have found candidates from Marvell, Vitesse, and Broadcom. All claim to use about half the power, are much smaller, datasheer don’t need the 1.

netdev – Re: [RFC PATCH] etc: Replaced PHY driver by a small dmx board fixup

The schematic merely shows the pinout. John Adair Enterpoint Ltd. An NDA might be more of a problem for the software; device driver source typically contains information about many of the PHY internal registers. The problem is that all of them require an NDA just to see the datasheet. Sign in Sign in Remember me Forgot username or password? I don’t see how this clashes with open source hardware though. The pinout isn’t covered by the NDA, as that information is already published in schematics that you can download.